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Post by toddmark on Apr 6, 2010 7:45:27 GMT -5
Fact is, toddmark, I'm not for you, and that's ok. I do what I do for the casual wrestling fan that wants to come and suspend disbelief long enough to have an enjoyable experience, not the small, albeit vocal, society that chooses to not have an enjoyable time for the express purpose to go home and bash something. The cool thing is, those people are the other 99%! Fact is apparently I am not for you either, I didn't **** on your work, didn't call you out for stealing spots simply for a pop because you can't get yourself over so you rely on someone else's work to do so...no I was pointing out ways for you to constructively improve your work based on personal experience. I have seen the reaction you get from the Chicago Board, looking at this post and your work I understand. You see you "want to be" a professional wrestler but you don't want it for any reason other than to stroke your short ass ego. There is nothing wrong with dropping a fist drop, doing a running elbow drop, giving someone a neck breaker/stunner. The difference is someone with heart, integrity and personality will make it their own before they do the move, they will not just steal the move for the sake of getting the crowd to pop for the WWE star (they aren't popping for you) who they get to see do the move on TV. Someday when you grow up you may realize that getting a reaction for your own efforts and work is far more rewarding than stealing a reaction from someone who HAS earned it!!! It's because of pieces of **** like you WyldeChild that I walked away from the ring, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!!
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Post by johnnyB on Apr 6, 2010 23:01:33 GMT -5
The match could have been better. Ofcourse! But the crowd got into that match more than any other that night. I myself liked the last match the most but ares was definately a close second. And in response to Todd. The name is Blade. Second. Most everytime Ric Flair did a end over end did it really make sense? No! It never does cuz nobody in REAL LIFE would ever actually go end over end into the corner no matter how they were thrown into it. It's wrestling. The crowd liked are match cuz it made wrestling sense. Not common sense. Sure alot of times it can make sense otherwise but sometimes it is good to get a little outlandish with things. Thats wrestling. You have your opinions and 99 percent of the crowd has a totally different one! I never care about 1 percent. But I like critisizm. It helps to look at things from a different view. But to your walking away from wrestling remark. I can understand that. But you can't let other people dictate what you want to do in life just because they don't get it. Either they will learn or they will not. Who cares if they do or don't. Just try to learn as much as you can and get on with it. Truthfully a remark like the one you made sounds like one of those know it all types at every show in the dressing room. The ones that think they have the only way. Their way!
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Post by johnnyB on Apr 7, 2010 9:53:45 GMT -5
Also Todd. What do you feel was wrong with the tie-ups? Any suggestions?
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Post by St. Louis Wrestling Rocks! on Apr 7, 2010 10:37:09 GMT -5
>Most everytime Ric Flair did a end over end did it really make sense?
Actually Flair did it because he was going to run to another corner hop on the top rope and hit a flying clothesline. He rarely pulled it off cause the opponent paid attention to what he was doing.
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Post by johnnyB on Apr 7, 2010 12:01:40 GMT -5
Which is exactly what I had done before gettin clotheslined. But either way it never really makes sense to go that far to get on the other side of the ropes. It is far easier to just run up and jump over. The outlandish, over-exagerated, flip end over end to the outside of the ropes never makes real sense and if you think it does then I trully feel sorry for you. It only makes sense in the wrestling world. As to why the crowd ate it up when I got clotheslined down to the outside of the ring.
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Post by St. Louis Wrestling Rocks! on Apr 7, 2010 14:47:41 GMT -5
Tell Flair that it didn't make sense.
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Post by wrestling09 on Apr 7, 2010 16:43:47 GMT -5
your right blade the match could have been better and maybe a bit longer.
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Post by johnnyB on Apr 8, 2010 10:06:14 GMT -5
Tell Flair that it didn't make sense. Well I never said it did not need to be done. I said it did not make sense. This is wrestling. Quit trying to make a comeback just to have the last word. Just accept in reality it does not make sense. But that is why we all love wrestling. Cuz hardly any of it makes sense. You don't have to think about it. If you do your just gonna end up being a smart mark which is not to smart. Just enjoy it. As a wrestler try to make a match make sense but know that it never really does. People talk about how the psychology of the match should play out and thats great. But out of the thousand of thousand of matches I have seen in my life there is not one that I think makes alot of sense. So for those who want to argue this please post anything you want about any match and then I will tell you how it does not make sense. If it made sense it would be an actual fight not a work!
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Post by "Volatile" Curtis Wylde on Apr 8, 2010 12:08:33 GMT -5
And it's in spite of peices of **** like you that I got back in the ring. As far as your "move stealing" comment... There is not a move created that hasn't been stolen. I guess Jake the Snake and Stan Hansen should be pissed about the fact every wrestler everywhere, at some point, has used a DDT or Clothesline/Lariat. This is a quote from Terry Hopper, former tna, and longtime referee: "if Al Snow, and Kip James, and Kevin Thorn and all the other WWE stars I've worked with can do EVERY WWE Finisher known to man in the final go home set.. then you can do the 5knuckle" As for getting a cheap pop... The crowd popped less for that stuff than they did for the rest of our match. Fact is, they hated Blade... They loved me... We did our jobs. You can't dispute that the crowd was chanting "Let's get Wild!" for most of the match. Fact is this guy IS one of those disgruntled ex-workers who never made it as far as he wanted to, or thought he could, go. He is one of those smart marks that isn't as smart as he thinks he is, that used to stand NEXT to the locker room, and try to give advice, Which when delivered in not a very nice person speak, just comes off as bashing. You wanted to call out ego? I thought I was being humble and professional... BUT here's some ego for you: I manage a band, and booked them nearly 100 shows last year. I've written four feature-length screenplays. I own an Entertainment Based company. You watch TNA... I've partied with the locker room. You watch ROH... Some of those cats crash at my place. My soon to be wife is a Full-time Licensed Massage Therapist & Part-Time Model I'm usually not so egotistical, but... Fact is: We live different lives! In closing: **** OFF GREENPEACE!
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Post by Justin Clark on Apr 8, 2010 13:04:09 GMT -5
What a homo. Are you the first person to take a picture with a pretty girl?
/r/ thread lock
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Post by wrestling09 on Apr 8, 2010 13:04:13 GMT -5
cool pics
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Post by angrygerman on Apr 8, 2010 14:35:54 GMT -5
I'd say Greenpeace just got owned.
Is that his mom or something in that picture? lol
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Post by eg on Apr 8, 2010 16:03:28 GMT -5
Listen guys, my personal feelings for the match aside. Curtis/Blade let it go, you don't have to defend a match that both of you liked to someone who didn't like it. Wrestling is like politics EVERYONE is going to have an opinion and not all of them are going to agree. Isn't it enough that you liked it and the fans cheered?
If I had to defend myself for every match that had negative criticism I would spend as much time on the internet trolling for my name as "SPITFIRE" DAVEY VEGA!!! does.
So guys just drop it, let Greenpeace have his opinion and you guys have yours. Don't bring life styles into it or family. Fact is GP is happy with his life and you're happy with yours, why can't that be enough?
Just leave it alone, and if GP wants to give you more negative feedback, simply ignore it. Because in the end no matter who says what you are going to wrestle the way you want and GP will have his opinion on how wrestling should be done.
In closing if Patrick would post that picture of "YAY WRESTLING" that would pretty much sum up this argument. It's just franking wrestling!
Thanks to all the shorties,
EG
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Post by johnnyB on Apr 8, 2010 16:03:29 GMT -5
Well I take criticism a little better than Wylde but the points are still very valid. The match got more pop than any other that night. Why? Cuz we did our jobs and we did them right. They hated me and they loved him. There were ofcourse things we could have done better. That is with just about every match. We should all be our own worst critics but ofcourse sometimes others come off as D-Bags just cuz they feel their voice needs to be heard. There are things I could point out that Wylde did wrong or coulda done better and I could say the same thing about me. But if so I would just dial his number and tell him. Im sure he would do the same for me. But the fact is I took the postive away from toddmarks little posts. Even though nothing he wrote was positive. He may be a never was who could never be. I don't know. Never seen him and don't care. He had some valid points even though they could have been worded a little differently.
Here's my take on the match. Other than the crowd really getting into it and all that the things I would to have liked to change are these. The Flair flip shoulda happened later after he beat me up a bit. Not much later but maybe mid-match. The girls should have went at it again close to the end which should have been the distraction so I could cheap shot Wylde for the win. While I'm winning the girls are still going at it and the crowd louder than ever not knowing wether to boo me or cheer the girls. Nothing like a mixed emotion frenzy!
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Post by angrygerman on Apr 8, 2010 17:03:40 GMT -5
Well I take criticism a little better than Wylde but the points are still very valid. The match got more pop than any other that night. Why? Cuz we did our jobs and we did them right. They hated me and they loved him. There were ofcourse things we could have done better. That is with just about every match. We should all be our own worst critics but ofcourse sometimes others come off as D-Bags just cuz they feel their voice needs to be heard. There are things I could point out that Wylde did wrong or coulda done better and I could say the same thing about me. But if so I would just dial his number and tell him. Im sure he would do the same for me. But the fact is I took the postive away from toddmarks little posts. Even though nothing he wrote was positive. He may be a never was who could never be. I don't know. Never seen him and don't care. He had some valid points even though they could have been worded a little differently. Here's my take on the match. Other than the crowd really getting into it and all that the things I would to have liked to change are these. The Flair flip shoulda happened later after he beat me up a bit. Not much later but maybe mid-match. The girls should have went at it again close to the end which should have been the distraction so I could cheap shot Wylde for the win. While I'm winning the girls are still going at it and the crowd louder than ever not knowing wether to boo me or cheer the girls. Nothing like a mixed emotion frenzy! I bought a ticket that night. Your match did not get the biggest pop of the night. The main event did.
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